Archive of the pad
Agenda of the meeting
- Brief history of the project
Co-construction process in 2016
Overview of the OGP Summit
- Presentation of the OGPToolbox.org Platform
Vision and organisation
- Presentation of the OGPToolbox.org Association
Project’s handover to the civil society
Mission of the association
Functioning of the association
Next events and open workshops
- Propositions ?
We’ll go through each point of the agenda and give the outlines here.
At any time during the meeting, add you name on the pad to ask for a turn to speak.
Start of the meeting
Greg Brown, National Democratic Institute, Open parliament OGP Working group
Miska Knapek, developer of the OGP Explorer
Angelo Chiacchio, No Design
Etienne Gonnu, April
Cécile Le Guen, Open Knowledge Foundation
Josephine Goube, Techfugees
Thomas Roca, Agence française de développement
Constance de Quatrebarbes, Entrepreneur d’intérêt général
Cyril Desmidt, InfoGnuEureka
Emmanuel Raviart, OGPToolbox.org
Paula Forteza, OGPToolbox.org
Christian Quest, Etalab, OpenStreetMap France
Alain Buchotte, DemocracyOS France
Pierre-Louis Rolle, Agence du numérique
Valentin Chaput, DemocracyOS France
Romain Tales, Etalab
Amélie Banzet, Etalab
Paul Richardet, Le Square
Caroline Corbal, DemocracyOS France
Pierre Smalich, OpenFoodFacts
Munyema Hasan, OGP Support unit
Milo van der Linden, Code for Europe
Context of the project: https://en.ogpsummit.org/the-open-government-toolbox/
Outcomes of the OGP Summit hackathon: http://www.opengovpartnership.org/blog/paula-forteza/2017/01/11/ogp-toolbox-global-hackathon-beyond
First use of the OGP Toolbox collection of automatically deployable consultation tools for the french government (https://ogptoolbox.org/collections/1) --> https://article69.agencedunumerique.gouv.fr/
Demo of the OGP Toolbox
Rating algoritthm: The current version is documented in forum : https://forum.ogptoolbox.org/t/ogptoolbox-rating-algorithm/29
Open source / closed source software: preliminary detection added (extracted from a fork of Benjamin Ooghe-Tabanou)
Internationalization: New dutch translation and localization infrastructure for all the european languages (thanks Milo & Code for Europe)
Collections: The user interface is simplified : https://ogptoolbox.org/collections/
The OGP Toolbox project will be handover from Etalab to the civil society. This is not just a French project, it’s an international project involving many actors, from the enlarged open government and civic tech community. The best way to gather people from many different fields, backgrounds and types of organizations is to have a neutral position at the interface of all these worlds. That’s why we’re launching a new association, meant to create a bridge between all actors with an interest in the OGP Toolbox, a place to discuss and decide on all matters related to the project. The creation of an association allows for more sustainability, more independence and the mobilization of new actors at the international level.
The mission (object) of the association is layed out in the statutes (article 2), which you can read here: https://forum.ogptoolbox.org/t/14
The association will be lead by the Administration council (Conseil d'administration, CA) and advised by the Orientation council (Conseil d'orientation, CO).
The Administration council's membership requires to have been involved in the project for a period of at least 6 months (Statutes, Art. 6).
The Orientation council is selected by the Administration council, its function is to make proposals to guide the project after debating and reaching a majority of votes among its members. Both organizations and individuals, members of the association or not, can be selected to the Orientation council (Statutes, Art. 7).
The composition of the Orientation council will be announced in the coming weeks.
2017 Roadmap first draft : Roadmap 2017 : première proposition (to be translated soon)
Discussion & suggestions
Develop the storytelling around tools: videos (T.Roca, A.Chiacchio)
Openness as a minimum requirement to be referenced (E.Gonnu) --> We want to attract proprietary software users and show them open alternatives, let them compare by themselves as a pedagogical approach (P.Forteza)
Increase the alignement between recommended tools and the OGP National Action Plan cycle: co-creation, implementation and monitoring (M.Hasan) --> Cécile Le Guen to publish a collection
The OGP Legislative Group to lead on an Open Parliament collection (G.Brown)
To work on projects to mix digital strategy and development strategy around the OGP Toolbox (T.Roca)
Extend to open hardware (T.Roca)
To strengthen the bridge between administrations, the OGP community and the OGP Toolbox association (A.Banzet)
Why a stand alone association? (P.Smalich) --> more sustainability in the long run, more independence from the french administration, be able to reach out and engage new actors at the international level (P.Forteza)
Engage researchers and help them use open source tools (C. de Quatrebarbes)
Use the OGP Toolbox to mobilize youth (A. Buchotte)
Code for Europe will use the OGP Toolbox to list its projects: need to embed in our website (M. van der Linden) --> Widgets coming (E.Raviart)
28/02: "Ministère ouvert" discussion of the next french OGP national action plan (Paris) --> https://www.etalab.gouv.fr/ministere-ouvert-lancement-de-la-mise-a-jour-du-plan-daction-national-pour-une-action-publique-transparente-et-collaborative04/03
05/03: Atelier ouvert Open Democracy Now hackathon at the Nuit du Code Citoyen (Paris) --> http://opendemocracynow.net/hackathons/hackathon7--> https://rdv.ogptoolbox.org/e/2/atelier-ouvert-ogptoolboxorg
30/03: Beyon data (Eindhoven) --> http://www.smart-circle.org/beyonddata/
10/04: Contribution sprint (Grand Poitiers)
25/04: 26/04: TICTeC 2017 (Florence) --> http://tictec.mysociety.org/
28/04: 29/04: Dataensummit 2017 (Berlin) --> https://datensummit.de/
Add you name at the bottom to take a turn to speak:
Thomas: associate a software with its use, storytelling. Avoid a list of sotfware
Angelo: Would be good to have more citizen centered explanations of the software - use cases as well as video.
Etienne: values, opposition to proprietary software, minimum requirement of openness is necessary for a neutral point of view
Paula: users should choose by themselves, with all the criterias including license but also hosting,
Etienne: value outweighs the performance of a software
Munyema: Couple of ideas: I think this will be great if digital solutions actually speak to some concrete problems. For example: We could orient the tools to align with the OGP National Action Plan cycle. What tools can be used for co-creation? What tools can be used for implementation, and which for monitoring?
Cecile: new countries should capitalize from countries that have already committed and taken actions on the OGP
Paula: we need a collection of tools on the Toolbox to help new participant countries
Valentin: Open Democracy Now is already a groups of organizations, we’re hosting hackathons, we’re interested in seeing you participate in them,
Pierre Louis Rolle : Agende du numérique already launched a consultation (https://article69.agencedunumerique.gouv.fr/), choosing DemocracyOS and using the automatic deployment offered by the OGP Toolbox to french administrations (https://ogptoolbox.org/collections/1), it’s a great first task. Idea: a sandbox for open source software for users to test them
Miska : ok - so I just wanted to share a meta-observation, which is that, there’s a bit of a wide audience out there,
eg. gov people that know/don’t about civic tech, civil society, and then the civic organisers and techn people within all these.
so well, it’s ok that it seems there are many different and sometimes contradictory needs, as there are many possible users
Johan : The Legislative group would definitely be happy to take the lead on an open parliament collection.
Miska : Right - that could certainly be an idea.
I - with my organiser hat on - was perhaps thinking that it might take different explanations and different kinds of hand-holding, to get people to use the tools.
eg. online documentation might be enough for covinced tecchies, while lots of talks, meetings and conversations, showing that the community uses these tools and what the effect for citizens and suers might be… could be more something to offer community managers in civil society and government.
Angelo: it’s more about open government than Open Government Partnership
Etienne: propose free software alternatives, advocacy approach, not just technical approach
Pierre-Louis Rolle: the Declaration of Paris has an open source requirement
Michel: Ouvre boite is an organization to access information from the government, get back the people’s code
Cecile: about governance, connecting to other organizations, what would the discussions for the community to take?
Paula: An Orientation council to propose ideas for the orientation. To be part of the governance the requirement is to be active in the project, to know it well, to "own it". Cross-membership between civil society orga, administration, citizens
Thomas: thinking about using the Toolbox in our day to day work, mixing the digital strategy with development strategy. For example with OpenStreetMap community. And what about “open hardware”? For example to connect and do computation online
Paula: we're connecting with the international community. Introducing new tools to new users, new countries
Amélie: it’s important to keep the bridge between the administration, the ogp community and the OGP Toolbox association
Constance: I’m part of the Hack Your PhD org. it’s very difficult to use open source. Open data is also a goal
Paul: formerly part of the Numa in Paris, and funding member of Open Democracy Now. Congratulations on your project!
Cyril: i’m connected with other projects. What connection with civil society?
Johan: we want to be a network of organizations and each one have its speciality
Caroline: 1) it’s very important to explain why open source is a better alternative, with simple arguments it becomes obvious. 2) The Toolbox is still too complicated for some end users. Maybe a short video, something to explain the basics of the OGP Toolbox.
Pierre: Why a stand alone org? Will there be a change of scope? Technical target or broader?
Paula: Migration is for sustainability, less dependance on the administration, reach out to a broader partners. The idea is still to work with administration and civil society organizations at an international level. Supported by the OGP
Alain: How to motivate kids to make something in their own country? We have tools that weren’t possible before. I was told when I was younger that I would have to work in a big company, it’s not true anymore.
Milo: There is a living to be made in and on open source. I am self-employed for 10 years now and haven't touched a windows or mac machine since ;-)
Milo: Integration is also important. As example; we would like to enter project on the ogptoolbox.org website, but embed a list of “our” projects in our website(s) via the API. Having a central catalog that can be adapted by other initiatives would greatly widen adoptation.
Emmanuel: widgets coming!
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